Wednesday, 6 December 2023
5/12/23 properly flooded
Tuesday, 28 November 2023
28/11/23 flooded
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Duncan Butler, Stu Lindsay
Wednesday, 1 November 2023
31/10/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Jonathan Riley, Mike Moxon
2hrs
Jon digging the higher end of the dig and Mike focussing on the bottom area. More boulders and mud/clay being removed, back to quite a large digging face and no sign of being anywhere near a floor on the right hand side. 39 buckets, filled and due to only 4 of us, triple handled out of the cave to be emptied at the surface.
Wednesday, 18 October 2023
17/10/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Jonathan Riley, Mike Moxon
2hrs
James digging lower level by the hole and Estelle digging the top level, Mike and Jon also filling buckets from loose spoil further up to help prevent it washing in with the expected rains in the next week. James removed a couple of good sized rocks, Estelle was digging down and also removed some rock, Mike cleared by the hole and it's been exposed again by removing conveyor belt and rock that was covering it. Once all 39 buckets were filled up, we headed up moving them out, which is hard work with only 4 of us! Filled a few bags as well whilst emptying as the spoil is starting to go over our bag walls in places. Headed to Hunters as Waldy shut for maintenance.
10/10/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Duncan Butler, Greg Horveth, Fran Campbell
1.5hrs
Operation boulder removal - who needs caps, plug & feathers or bang, when you've a Duncan - he spent all evening beating up the boulder with hammer and chisel and reduced it to gravel and small enough rocks to handle. Beats going to the gym! Lots of mud on rocks and floor before it cleared by Estelle & Greg whilst Duncan broke the rock and 39 buckets filled in total before heading out. The end dig is now massive and easily will be diggable by 2 people at the front if we've enough numbers. Headed to Waldegrave for rewards.
26/9/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Jonathan Riley, Stu Lindsay, Mike Moxon, Jim Hayward, Joe Holloway
2hrs
Jim digging the forward dig and Joe clearing the aven on the left. Estelle had brought over some conveyor belt for the pool chamber to replace the grids. With some bagging of spoil to help level it a bit more, this was laid and successfully used for hauling. Once that was done, the grids were moved up passage and during the course of the evening, taken out of the cave and to the top to dry out. The 39 skips were all filled and emptied outside and circa another 15ish or so were bagged as well. Headed to Waldegrave for refreshments.
Wednesday, 20 September 2023
19/9/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Chris Smart, Greg Horveth
Wednesday, 13 September 2023
12/9/23
Estelle Sandford, Mike Moxon, Adrian Miles, Stu Lindsay
2hrsEstelle brought along 10 new buckets (£3.94 each inc VAT from CRS) and we packed up the 29 already there and headed down to dig. Stu was making some measurements to make the climb up the bag wall safer as it's very slippery and we also measured the grids (18ft) for changing them to conveyor belt. On arrival at the dig, it was noted that the large boulder above the straight on dig in the roof, was now on the floor! Several of us had tried to bring this down before and assumed it was wall as it didn't come down with much beating, but clearly the clay had been doing a good job of keeping it glued in place until it started to dry out. It had brought down a lot of mud/clay as well, so it only took around 30mins between Adrian digging the right hand aven/dig into 4 buckets at a time and Estelle and Mike clearing the clay around the boulder. There is still quite a bit of clay left.
Just as we finished filling buckets, Stu joined us. He initially hauled the grids and the rest of us did the other spots to get the buckets to the chamber by the railway. Then we all shuffled up to exit the buckets out and empty them. In hindsight taking down bags and adding more to the ex-pool chamber would have been more sense with the low numbers tonight as it was blooming hard work for all of us and the air wasn't great tonight either. Headed to Waldegrave for much needed refreshments after.
Monday, 11 September 2023
5/9/23
Estelle Sandford, Jon Riley, Mike Moxon, Duncan Butler
1.5hrsJames had injury to his head, so unable to wear a helmet, no-one else available so just the 4 of us. Duncan and Mike dug, forward and right respectively. Right probably has a couple more digging sessions to finish clearing, forward continues to go along and down. Only did the 1 round of 30 buckets before heading to the Waldegrave.
29/8/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jonathan Riley, Stu Lindsay, Fran Campbell, Dave Walker
2hrsA welcome back to Dave to digging, he was impressed by how much further we'd progressed. He dug the side aven briefly before Stu got to the end and took over digging that one. Estelle dug forwards, concentrating on digging out the floor as there had been some tunnelling going on. The floor dropped by about 2 foot all in and boulders removed as well. Need to carry on clearing out all, but looks like it is dropping a bit there. 50 buckets were taken to the top in stages and emptied out. We're now down to 30 buckets with another handle failing tonight. Headed to Waldy after.
Wednesday, 23 August 2023
22/8/23
2hrs
Jim and Mike digging, Jim going forwards and Mike digging off to the right. Right is looking more to be an aven, albeit still going up and probably still has a couple of sessions worth of digging out the spoil to reach a conclusion. Forward is still looking interesting and heading into more of a tube at the moment, although need to confirm the floor has been reached below. Is now a good body length past the hole in the floor now. First 31 buckets filled and transported up to the top railway and then all headed up to finish off the haul and empty them, then went back in for a second round of 31 and repeat. Finished just before 9pm and went to Waldy.
15/8/23
Wednesday, 9 August 2023
8/8/23
Adrian and Jack were given the 2 dig sites and they set to filling the buckets, did one round of 32 and then took down another 12 as we were being so efficient and quick tonight! (One more bucket now died, so we're down to 31) Adrian dug the right hand one, bringing down more from the alcove, still a fair bit to go, not totally clear yet whether it is just an alcove or more. Jack dug forwards and continued on at the same level, very compacted spoil in that part. There was also some left over spoil at the start of the pool and by the hole in the floor from Mike last week. At the start of digging, Estelle put the conveyer belt back over the hole, the water was visible and probably only a foot or so down into the hole. Waldy after to meet James who was working late.
Friday, 4 August 2023
1/8/23 unseasonably wet!
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jonathan Riley, Stu Lindsay
1.5hrs
Mike and Jon digging the end 2 digs, the water levels were up as it has rained so much recently and the pool chamber had the grill underwater again, plus some big pools at the dig end which needed draining to dig. The hole in the floor is still draining but quite slow, not sure if we've quietly blocked it with spoil or whether it is due to the extremely high water levels for time of year. 32 buckets filled and then moved out of the cave and emptied in stages. Mike also had a go at clearing the hole and also cleared some mud around what looked like it could be a boulder above the hauling spot for the grill, but confident now it's wall.
Having emptied the buckets, we headed to the Waldy.
Wednesday, 26 July 2023
25/7/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jonathan Riley
1.5hrs
Estelle
digging at the end on the right, interesting going down, but unsure where this
is leading, lots of spoil still to come out there and also above it as it will
eventually fall on your head otherwise. Also the straight on bit looks like it
may be closing off, but we still have the hole in the floor. Lots of rain since
last digging, and the grill in the pool chamber was under water! May have to
put a drainage hole in the dam somewhere... Did one round of skips (33) and
then headed to Hunters. Hoping for more diggers next week.
Thursday, 13 July 2023
11/7/23 report from James
A low turnout this evening, with Jon and Duncan meeting at 18:00 to start breaking up some rocks and James joining them at 19:15. Duncan had his drill and capping kit, but forgot to bring his molegrips, so decided not to use the caps but instead broke up the rocks using just a drill and some hefty blows with the hammer. All the loose rocks in the end chamber have been made smaller, and moved back into the 'pool' chamber. 12 skip loads of mud was also removed from the end. Plenty of space at the end to resuming digging operations again next week. All out and in the Waldy by 20:45.
Tuesday, 4 July 2023
4/7/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley, Duncan Butler
1.5hrsrained a lot today, but didn't affect the dig. James and Duncan did the digging, Estelle did the moving up to the grill and Mike and Jon filled bags in the pool chamber until they ran out and then the rest of the skips went out. Estelle struggling tonight with a sore back. As we were earlier, the Waldegrave was still open.
27/6/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley and Stu Lindsay turned up for the later haul shift.
2hrsEstelle and Jon dug, Estelle right hand wall and Jon going forwards. Most of the spoil was bagged and then a load of buckets were taken out too. About 10 bags filled and a dozen or so skips taken out. Straight on has a flake that looks dodgy on the left, the right hand dig can dig down and bury the crow bar, so be interesting to see how it goes. some decent sized boulders removed. Hunters as Waldegrave closed early.
Friday, 23 June 2023
20/6/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley
2hrs
with only 4 of us, we decided to take some bags in and start to level off the pool chamber area. Overall target to level off at least where the grill is, so the grills can come out, probably put conveyor belt across it to make it easier to haul and also there isn't a need for the pool now we have the hole in the floor.
James and Mike got on with digging. James at the dig above the hole in the floor, continuing forwards and unearthing another large boulder, whilst Mike worked at the right hand walk. That looks to be an aven and could be an alcove, but with a fair bit of spoil and rocks coming out of it, it doesn't look to be hitting a wall yet... Estelle passed the buckets up to where Jon was filling bags - around 9 or 10 bags filled and then filled the dozen buckets we were using and brought them out to scrape and dry for next week. Hunters tonight as Waldy closed early with no darts.
Still need to take krabs, sort the skip and take a new hammer in. Also there are a good number of boulders now needing capping near the end.
Wednesday, 14 June 2023
13/6/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley, Stu Lindsay, Fran Campbell
Thursday, 8 June 2023
6/6/23
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley, Duncan Butler, Stu Lindsay, Chris Smart
2hrsAnother dry week, Jon went in and filled a couple of buckets and then Chris took over and filled the rest of the 34 before Jon took over again for the last 18, so 52 buckets in total. 1 really good sized rock came out of the wall, which has temporarily blocked the hole at the bottom, and also a medium sized friend. Rest was mud and small rocks spoil. A number of the larger rocks in the bottom chamber have been moved to the pool chamber now with a view to gradually levelling that off leaving only very large rocks that need capping/plug and feather. Also removed the 2 scaff bars to the surface as no longer needed next to the grill. Rest of the team worked hard moving the spoils to the surface and emptying them before we headed to the Waldy for bevvies.
Need to try and remember for next week - new lump hammer, 2 replacement crabs for middle skip and either a knife to cut the rope or tools to try and undo the stuck crab on the middle skip. If we can get a better middle skip ready that would be good as the one going in for now is quite a shallow one.
Wednesday, 31 May 2023
30/5/23 Dig dig dig!
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Adrian Miles. Duncan turned up towards the end but didn't dig tonight.
Wednesday, 24 May 2023
23/5/23 back digging again, no longer flooded!
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley
Wednesday, 17 May 2023
16/5/23 dry enough to dig now...!
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Jonathan Riley
15mins
Jon was changed when we arrived, so he headed down to check the state of the end of the dig. He came back reporting that the left side where the hole is was about 18" of water, but straight on and right was now diggable. With only 3 of us, there was little we could do, so didn't get changed and we headed to Waldegrave. We did note that there was possibly a couple of rocks that had come down from the walls by the fence and left of the fence and a few looks precarious, need to take a long pokey stick and see if any do want to come down easily to make it safer. Hopefully back digging with a full team next week and then for foreseeable.
1/5/23 still flooded
Estelle Sandford, James Begley
15mins
only Estelle went underground with oversuit over clothes as suspected it would be flooded still. It was flooded to slightly lower than where it was on 21/3 but not by much and does not look like it will be diggable for a week or two still unless very dry weather, which with the forecast is unlikely. Aim to check again on 16/5. Noted that since the last time we visited, the buckets were scattered so that indicates that it has flooded above them recently.
Tuesday, 28 March 2023
21/3/23 back underwater again - unseasonably wet weather!
Estelle Sandford, Jon Riley went underground, also Duncan Butler, Mike Moxon and James Begley turned up.
30mins.
As the first two dressed for underground, Estelle & Jon went in to check water levels. It was backed up on the floor to the usual sit point for the middle drag run, so dig completely submerged at the moment. The rains recently have been heavy and ongoing forecast to be bad for the next week, so suspect we won't get back into the dig for at least another couple of weeks.
Thursday, 2 March 2023
28/2/23 Back Digging
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Stu Lindsay, Fran Campbell, Duncan Butler
1.5hrs
Estelle went in to dig and after clearing a bit of slump on the right of the hole in the floor, started working on going straight on ahead. Tried to avoid dropping mud into the hole, we need to cover it whilst digging, maybe bag of bags, or will cut a bit of conveyer belt to bring over. It is easy digging and since popping over Sunday, the dig water level has dropped by about another foot. As low numbers, had to all come up to complete emptying so we finished at 35 buckets and went to the Waldy. We need a longer pokey stick for a couple of loose looking rocks and try and remember some conveyer belt too.
26/2/23 Water levels dropping nicely
Estelle Sandford
15mins
put oversuit on top of clothes and went to check the state of the water levels. The pool with the grill had dropped to nearly dry and the hole in the floor had around a foot or so of water above it. All means good to go with digging Tuesday.
Tuesday, 14 February 2023
14/2/23 surprising drop in water levels
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Duncan Butler, Stu Lindsay
45mins
Visited Cutlers to check water levels, noted some more rocks had fallen from the roof, we need a longer bar to prod a few suspect places next week. Estelle & Duncan went to look at the water levels and were surprised to note that the water had dropped to a level where there was an inch or so on top of the grill and beyond the dam was 2-2.5ft below the dam height. Suspect if the weather forecast is correct, then we may well be able to dig next week as the water levels have dropped way more than expected. We came back out, each took some rubbish from the pile to go and headed off to look at a dig called Eric.
Wednesday, 8 February 2023
7/2/23 still flooded but dropping off
Estelle Sandford, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley, Stu Lindsay
1hr
went to check on water levels and also have a bit of a clear up as a lot of the items we had stored had been scattered all over by the flooding. Looked at the water level and it's down by the bag hole in the floor area. Everything above is looking pretty stable with the bag wall and also passage around the cave. Jon prodded a few ceiling rocks around the edges in the top shaft that were loosened by the water levels reaching above the entire pit. We went through the bags and bagged up a load that need throwing away and also all the dead skips, we'll gradually remove these over the coming weeks to our bins. Tidied up all the usable bags and skips and hopefully it won't flood again this winter now and the water levels will continue to drop.
Wednesday, 1 February 2023
31/1/23 less flooded, but still flooded...
Update from Mike Moxon
I had a quick look around the bottom of the ladder last night before going on elsewhere.
5 sets of buckets are still sat where we left them, more surprising is that 3 scrapers (as the lightest items) are also on top of the wall. I guess that means another set of buckets is still adrift underground (they were only ones floating when Jon & I visited). Bags are covered in a thin layer of silt, wall hasn't moved but at least one of the steps has (a bit) - 2 photos. Red winch box still in situ, mini mattock next to it precariously perched! Empty bags are scattered all over with one still half way up the wall (need a pole to dislodge it). Loose stones at base of wall are washed cleaner & water was at c.155m level on survey in left side dig (so you can step down from Stu's rock, but flooded from there, other photo - presumably same in main passage, which means chamber at other end of railway would have been chest deep - I didn't check as wasn't wearing caving kit).
Monday, 30 January 2023
21/1/23 still flooded
from Mike Moxon
Jon & I visited this afternoon after rolls & crisps in the Hunters'. We left there in bright sunshine, but beyond Green Ore was freezing fog (pic of ice crystals on gate, but they were also all across grass around the holes)
The water has dropped about 10 feet & Kevin has removed some of the floating debris (surprisingly 1 stack of buckets is still on the surface!) & we recovered some more that we could reach - yes there is one bag stuck on the back wall...). Otherwise only hole 1 had a small puddle visible in bottom.
Water level is now under the
overhang above where Stuart sits, but still a lot to drop (probably 20ft
vertically to the dig face). Couldn't see the spoil heap yet. Pic from today
attached.
Tuesday, 17 January 2023
17/3/23 water levels higher still
Update from Kevin. Still rising levels without it raining and all the other holes are now same level.
12/1/23 Flooded out...
Kevin sent us some photos, with continuous rain for weeks, the water levels have risen dramatically as per the images below. The various holes were not at the same height so indicates groundwater pushing up and that the size of passage (or blockage) means the water hasn't pushed up as high.
Thursday, 22 December 2022
20/12/22 underwater again...
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Jonathan Riley, Chris George, Dave Walker, Stu Lindsay, Mike Moxon, Mark Edwards (MCG) + Paul Quinton (MCG)
45minsHeaded in expecting to find it diggable but with perhaps the pool before quite high, but we were wrong. It had rained extremely heavily over the last 48hours until Tuesday 5am-ish with around 1.5inches of rain falling in the area and all local river levels were up and many mini-streams flowing along the roads as drains or drainage channels couldn't cope. The end chamber was at least a metre deep above the hole in the floor, although the pool area was not up to the level of the grill, so this means that the water levels probably came up rather than flowed down, unless the pool has gained more of a leak at a level since previously!
We can only surmise that either this is water table level at this point in time - may be possible to verify with a comparison to the bore hole levels, or the hole in the floor ongoing passage is too small to cope with the recent rain (or possibly become blocked) or possibly that due to the proximity of the pond to the end of the dig, maybe there is an overspill level which enters the passage ahead of us and doing so faster than it can drain. This is all guess work, and hopefully by the time we are next back in the new year, we will have had enough dry days for it to have drained away again...
Wednesday, 14 December 2022
13/12/22
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Mike Wise, Jonathan Riley, David Walker, Chris George
2hrs
Arrived to find that there was no sign of water in the bottom of our new hole, that had all drained away since last week. We all came down at the start to take a look before letting Dave loose on digging around it. A few small boulders removed and plenty of mud of varying consistency. Everyone else spread up the passage to haul and work and Jon/Mike M at the top by the railway added to the buckets by adding some shelf so there is more stacking space there. It was quite cold outside, so did all the clearing as a batch from the other end of the railway. James took over and dug for a while and then Estelle & Jon came down for a look and Jon took over digging to the right of the dig. The ceiling centre arches to the right of the hole and everything there is mud/rocks, so we need to clear that to get an idea what is going on there as there may be wider ways into the void nearer the centre of the passage possibly, but also need to expose all the rock to the right to decide if it needs chemical persuasion or not. The hole itself is bigger, but more of a rift shape and there is lumps of churt on the walls just inside, which may break off, but currently only about 6" wide, but a couple of foot long. You can get your legs in a bit and not reach the bottom, but going in head first, you can't really see anything yet. The water in the pool above had nearly all drained away, but there had been no rain, just ice/cold weather since last week.
Photos below are start and end of digging session (Chris's knee in it for scale!)
Tuesday, 6 December 2022
6/12/22 glug, glug, glug
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Fran Campbell, Stu Lindsay
2hrs
Estelle went in to dig, the grill was a good 6inches or more above water, but the pool at the end was not that much lower than last week when Mike W was digging. Estelle set to filling buckets, pool lapped the top of wellies a few times and meant wet socks... Everyone was underground as there wasn't enough to move to the surface. Still easy digging and around 10 buckets before the end, Estelle put a crowbar under a rock in the floor and there was a very audible glug, glug, glug and the pool started draining. This continued and then a hole in the floor appeared with a pool/passage below. Much of the remaining buckets were filled with the gloopy mud in the pool with a little digging around the hole. The hole itself is around 4 inches wide by 8 inches long at present. It isn't clear if when the spoil/boulders are removed we can get in without chemical persuasion, but on arm length plus crow bar, it wasn't possible to reach the water below quite. Dropping small rocks into it gave a good sploosh, so think it's got some depth. We will no doubt find out more in the coming weeks as we make the hole bigger.
Friday, 2 December 2022
29/11/22 dried enough to dig
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jonathan Riley, Mike Wise
2hrs
No rain since the preceding Saturday night, so dig had a change to dry. Mike M headed into the end and came back reporting that the grill pool was still above the grill with water, but the end had drained down to just under wellie height so diggable. As the pool was lapping the dam, 2 of the big barrels were filled with water and put aside to stop it overflowing. The haul runs really smoothly with it so wet and it floats back over the join! About 50 buckets of spoil dug by Mike W and removed to surface in 2 stints, it was all easy emptying too, turning into mudcastles when buckets upturned. At the end of the digging, we emptied the barrels of water and bailed more water into the end, hopeful that it would drain away as the end does seem to drain faster than the pool. The pool is being fed by a fairly healthy drip near the start though. Long range forecast looking colder but drier, so fingers crossed it will be lower again next week. Waldegrave closed too early for us tonight as no darts, so headed to Hunters instead.
Wednesday, 23 November 2022
22/11/22 too wet to dig
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Dave Walker, Jonathan Riley, Chris George, Duncan Butler, Stu Lindsay
1hr
48hrs of heavy rains ahead of digging evening, so unsurprisingly the end was too wet to comfortably dig. The grill was underwater and was overflowing into the dig, but it wasn't as bad as 2 weeks ago, probably about half the depth. Hopefully if we can have a few dry days ahead of next week we can get back in to dig.
With the lack of digging, we turned our attention to looking at securing the bag wall and building a concreted and secured retaining wall in front of it as while it is ok at present, if we continue getting higher and higher, it's going to put more pressure on the bottom bags. This can be a winter project should we get flooded out completely if the water table rises too much. Duncan took away some measurements and will look at a shopping list of items needed, but mostly a lot or rebar and shuttering and also will need quite a lot of cement to build the wall.
Monday, 21 November 2022
15/11/22 dry enough to dig!
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Jon Riley, Stu Lindsay, Duncan Butler - didn't have caving kit but helped Stu a bit at surface.
2hrs
Having had a reasonable amount of rain last week, we assumed the dig would still be wet. Sent James and Mike down to look and they reported about 4" water in the bottom and perfectly diggable. They went back in to dig and Estelle & Jon helped with the hauls and carries to stage it and then we all moved up. Stu and Duncan started working on the wall preparations at the top, Estelle had brought some cement and Mike some sand, but not used tonight. There is a need for lots of rebar and mesh to build a fronting wall to make it all safer in there. Headed to Waldy after.
Wednesday, 9 November 2022
8/11/22 flooded
Estelle Sandford, James Begley, Mike Moxon, Dave Walker, Jon Riley, Duncan Butler
Monday, 7 November 2022
1/11/22
Estelle Sandford, Jonathan Riley, Duncan Butler & Chris George. James forgot his wellies!
1hrAfter a few weeks of very significant rain fall, we were half expecting to find the end flooded out, but pleasantly surprised that the dammed area was full of water, but the dam hadn't been breached, or if it had, then there must be drainage as there was no more than a couple of inches of water at the bottom. With only 4 of us, it wasn't worth doing much, but we did move some boulders up passage from the dig that were manageable and also brought all the tools up a bit before retreating to the Waldy.